Hike Reviews

February 18, 2022
Rough mid Feb hike
The trail was well marked up to the summit and conditions were pretty much what I expected...micro spikes were necessary most of the way. My issues began on the return loop...the blazes are non existant for long stretches starting at the fire ring. It is visible but at the extreme far left of the ring, then after the 2nd incline, the blazes disappear into overgrown laurals. If it wasn't for my All-Trails app I might still be up there as I tried following some old snow shoe prints that went way off trail. Some trail maintanance is needed.
September 19, 2015
a way to save time
<p>If you turn off on the <span style="text-decoration: underline;">second</span> left for Rt. 28A, and realize that there is no sign for Rt. 42, you can save an hour of driving around aimlessly</p>
August 30, 2015
I use a Garmin Colorado, when
<p>I use a Garmin Colorado, when i hiked this I was surprised how well the distance matched what was predicted on the map. I got 2.68 miles to the end of the woods road, and 1.2 mies to the summit from there. overall i got 9.5 miles for the whole circuit, but i followed some side trails and explored around in addition to hiking the route.</p> <p>overall i agree with Jeremy's comments... GPS can be very accurate under ideal conditions but if your readings diverge from the map then the map is probably correct. i would say, if you stop frequently GOS can have you moving around a 30' circle causing your overall distance measurered to be exagerated by a significant amount.</p>
August 30, 2015
nice late august hike
<p>had a very enjoyable hike yesterday, following this route exactly as sugguested. My GPS said 9.5 &nbsp;miles back at the parking lot, but i explored a number of side trails along the way. the wife turned her ankle at the top and so we were slow on the decent - all told we took 6.5 hours and i would expect hikers to complete this in 5 hours or less.</p> <p>the section 4.85 to 5.25 miles is very overgrown this year and the laurels have almost overtaken the path. the section 5.4 to 5.7 miles is very eroded - it looks like a major river runs down here every storm and the trail is completely washed out. for the most fun, turn around at 3.95 miles and do this as an out-n-back!</p>
July 30, 2015
<p>is camping allowed?</p>
November 09, 2014
Great Hike!
<p>Did this hike today.</p> <p>Was a great hike, but....</p> <p>Someone needs to really update all the Trail Markers.</p> <p>There were spots where I had to look back and forth just trying to find the trail.</p> <p>Otherwise, great!</p>
June 17, 2014
Re: GPS distances different
Jeremy Apgar
<p>My name is Jeremy and I am the cartographer here at the Trail Conference.&nbsp; We appreciate input from individuals like yourself to help make our hike descriptions and maps as accurate as possible.<br><br>Without knowing the specifics of your GPS device and its settings, it is difficult to pinpoint the cause of error, but we are confident of the original mileages based on a few factors:</p> <ol> <li>The original distances were measured using a wheel device on the actual trail.&nbsp; This technique is fairly accurate for trails such as this one, capturing small trail wiggles as well as incorporating elevation-adjusted distances.</li> <li>Our Geographic Information System (GIS) database of trails, from which our maps are produced, is able to calculate straight-line and elevation-adjusted distances.&nbsp; These GIS-derived distances match fairly closely with the wheeled distances (less than 4% difference).</li> <li>GPS measurements are prone to a wide variety of errors.&nbsp; GPS data can be extremely useful, and we use it to create our trail maps, but due to different kinds of technical issues/errors/settings, one should exercise caution when referring to its data.&nbsp; As a personal anecdote, just last week I GPSed the same section of trail with two different GPS units, and after 5 miles, there was a 0.5 mile difference between the two!&nbsp; Satellite configuration, amount of clear sky, GPS chipset, and configuration settings are likely the most common places where GPS error can be introduced.</li> </ol> <p>Thank you again for your input, as this particular comment allowed us to take a close look at these numbers and confirm them.<br><br>~Jeremy<br>TC Cartographer</p>
June 16, 2014
GPS distances different than on map-trail markers sketchy
<p>Using GPS the distance on the first section came to 3.4mi not the 2.7mi listed. The 1.1mi section of loop moved to 1.4mi and the last section of the loop went from 2.5mi to 3.4mi with a round trip of 11.6mi. Someone should confirm this. The back end of the loop followed a very rocky stream bed with a high&nbsp;slip hazard when wet on&nbsp;alge coated stones. Some of the markers were indeed faded and non-existent as trees with markers had in several instances been storm toppled-lost the trail couple of instances on stream crossings. Strenuous is apt for this trail, but can be done in 3.5hrs depending on one's level. I used a good running shoe for lighter weight but something with ankle support would be a benefit on sections of unstable stones. It is a personal preference.</p>
October 06, 2013
Lower Point
<p>Thanks for this helpful description.&nbsp;</p> <p>It'd be even more helpful if someone who's been down to "Little High Point" or "Lower Point" or whatever it's called would make a cairn or some other marker to indicate the way down. I'm sure I'm not the only one who's lost quite a bit of time, daylight, and energy to trying to figure out the way in more foliate seasons.&nbsp;</p> <p>The description above says that it's about a 1/4 mile to the point but neglects to mention how much of a descent it is. The topo map in conjunction with this description is confusing. If it's a big descent, say so!</p> <p>The link and the pictures at the blog are also misleading since the view from Little Point says "<span style="color: #333333; font-family: Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif; font-size: 11px; line-height: 16px; text-align: center;">Part of the view from Little High Point.&nbsp; Ashokan High Point is the mountain on the right</span>" but the mountain on the right looks far more than a 1/4 of a mile away as it looms over the view in the photo!</p> <p>While this is still a great hike even with so much foliage still up, clearer instructions on this part would have been great and I would have loved to have seen the views.&nbsp;</p> <p>If you've never done this hike before, be mindful of the poor blazing....red discs are rare and many are old enough to have faded to fall foliage color. Many others are cracked or missing. At one point I only found the trail because a kind hiker ahead of me had picked a disc up off the ground an hung it from a twig!</p>